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Re: a thing on a journey
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2009, 04:06:41 AM »

  I'm sure you'll be getting some better critiques from some of the more knowledgeable heads on here.
you definitely seem like you want todo 'full-body liquid' more than most beginners, which is a good thing, theres a learning concept that most of us go through called internalizing flow. all of us usually start at doing handwaves and handflow(rails too) until its very clean or close, then we move to armflow and continuing down into the torso/core. of course you dont have todo this process but its the path that most of us have taken, its a faster way to have more presentable liquid and easier to learn because we're breaking our body into sections, but the temptation to get stuck in hand/arm dominated liquid is great. i'm sure u could continue like you are incorporating everything and still improve, although the rate of that progression will seem slower i'm thinking.

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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2009, 01:48:38 AM »

I have been trying to keep my fingers (particularly my thumb) together.
I noticed that there is often a bit of delay between the end of my armwaves and their connection back to handflow. I will try to correct this.
I have been practicing digits everywhere.

My friends that I jam with (guitars, bass guitar, drums, sometimes tenor sax) said that my dancing is a measurement of how well the music they are making sounds. :P This goes along with my recent discovery of the obvious: the best motivation for dancing is good music. Other than my friends' jamming, I have been getting into house music for liquid dancing. I find that it is just the right tempo and the repetitiveness leaves much room for creativity with dancing.
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2009, 02:24:03 AM »

I have been trying to keep my fingers (particularly my thumb) together.
I noticed that there is often a bit of delay between the end of my armwaves and their connection back to handflow. I will try to correct this.
I have been practicing digits everywhere.

My friends that I jam with (guitars, bass guitar, drums, sometimes tenor sax) said that my dancing is a measurement of how well the music they are making sounds. :P This goes along with my recent discovery of the obvious: the best motivation for dancing is good music. Other than my friends' jamming, I have been getting into house music for liquid dancing. I find that it is just the right tempo and the repetitiveness leaves much room for creativity with dancing.

lol i've been tucking my thumbs in too! cause i havent really actively practiced it in awhile, not doing it for all my liquid just some...and my tutting.

i also had the waving problem too, just have it in mind and compensate for it when you practice and it shouldnt be hard to overcome.
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2009, 03:43:20 AM »

Yeah I'd just say work on your armflow and handflow alot mang. Different to see quite a beginner to work on the whole body stuff, nice dude. and try make the flow to go round your shoulders, head etc.. etc.
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2009, 12:01:51 PM »

Yeah I'd just say work on your armflow and handflow alot mang. Different to see quite a beginner to work on the whole body stuff, nice dude. and try make the flow to go round your shoulders, head etc.. etc.

I have been trying to make my flow go around my head and shoulders more. Sometimes it is just awkward and pointless, but I think that is how it starts out putting any new technique into your dance. I remember that is how body waves were like a month ago.

The reason I have been working on using my whole body more is just that I got bored with just flowing around repetitively with my arms. I felt like I had hit a roadblock like a month or two ago.

What exactly needs improvement with my arm/handflow? I noticed I need to keep my thumbs and fingers together and occasionally the flow is slightly broken in an awkward way.
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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2009, 12:37:32 AM »

I saw DISTORTI0N/Scott and a little of Kai at the FMJ. DISTORTI0N watched me dance a bit and gave me very helpful advice for digits. First, use the digits movements to crawl through space. Also, it can be helpful to think of twisting a can opener and unfolding a hand (likely makes little sense with just this text and no video). After taking these in I was doing digits all over. I even did it to the rumble of the train on the way home.  ^_^

I watched a miming instructional video about fixed points. Playing with this with liquid and digits is fun. :)


My forearms and pinkies will be sore tomorrow. I think that means I did enough.

Looking forward to the Botanic Garden meetup on Saturday.
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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2009, 03:03:53 AM »

just an fyi i wouldnt make it a habit to learn from expertvillage videos lol. most of their 'instructors' are watered down(not in a cool liquid way) at best

yea sry i couldnt make it to the jam, was feelin a bit under the weather i'll cya saturday for sure tho, good to see you getting into digits and fixed space more! :)
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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2009, 01:03:36 PM »

just an fyi i wouldnt make it a habit to learn from expertvillage videos lol. most of their 'instructors' are watered down(not in a cool liquid way) at best

yea sry i couldnt make it to the jam, was feelin a bit under the weather i'll cya saturday for sure tho, good to see you getting into digits and fixed space more! :)

Yeah, I have found Expert Village videos often majorly lacking in details. That fixed point one was useful though.
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2009, 12:55:31 AM »

The Botanic Garden today was fun despite being hella hot. Kai took some videos (When can we expect them up?), including one of me dancing to The Postal Service. DISTORTI0N showed me a different way to do armwaves: twist the elbow instead of lifting it up. I was also shown the effects of good isolation and posture as well as having equal power & technique going out of a move as going into it.
I realized I do not like dancing (or trying to...) to breakcore. I am going to look more into dubstep.

I am figuring out what exactly I do when dancing in relation to the music. Kai explained to me how he kinda views music as challenging him (please correct me if I am misunderstanding), which I do not do.
Yesterday, I was dancing for an hour and fifteen minutes with barely any stopping to psytrance with Leo. After I got a bit tired, I let go of any attempt at creating an illusion. I just danced on and on and on and on. Leo put it as "letting the music think for you", which I think is pretty close to what I was doing. It was meditative, especially going into the dance, because it requires letting go of all inhibitions and just going, similar to running. This is not what I usually do when dancing, but I think it has its place.
Usually, I view myself as a partner to the music. More repetitive and flowy music guides me but leaves room for creativity. At this point, I view breakcore as too controlling of my dancing.

Complementing this journey to figure out my relationship to music through my dancing, I am trying to figure out what direction I want to take my dancing. I do not think I want to take it in a very digits-oriented direction like Kai's style. I am thinking of pursuing a style more in the direction of Eric's. However, when I saw Scott dancing at the FMJ, I was inspired to do a lot of digits, so I am not sure about this. Kai explained how the music a dancer listens to a lot influences their dancing even when not dancing to that music, so I think this could just come to me as I find what music I like to dance to and how I relate to it.

I noticed quite a dichotomy today going from the Botanic Garden to the local annual carnival, which I went to for the $1.50 (half price) seafood gumbo half an hour before closing. :) At the Botanic, I was much more humbled but also inspired by the other dancers. But, when I left, I was surrounded by people that kept asking me if they could look in my backpack and see my bananas and to dance because they thought it looked cool, joking about battling, and one asked what the hardest move I could do was. They did not understand at all that it is a dance. It goes with music and shitty music makes for shitty dancing. If there is no music, it is not even dancing; it is just presenting an illusion.
Going to school next year with these kinds of people everywhere will be interesting. I do kinda like that people can recognize liquid, but I do not like their lack of understanding. I think this is inevitable though. I might enter the Variety Show or similar event(s) at school to dance. This depends on what my workload will be as well as what I feel like. I am pretty sure I am not going to do gymnastics again and focus more on dancing.

I stopped by Trader Joe's on the way there for 15 bananas and a liter of green tea with orange & bergamont. Ionno why, but it also had added malic acid which made it taste overbrewed. Perhaps I should just brew my own tea and put it in that bottle. I should start making kombucha too.

I now know I am a ninja ape. *nin

I think my vocabulary and articulation abilities have been deteriorating. School should fix this.

Wow, that was long. :O
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Re: a thing on a journey
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2009, 02:37:28 AM »


Wow, that was long. :O

not at all man, great post!, me tom scott n randy just got back from our night out.

on the music thing, yea definitely have to find your own path with that and its good that u understand that early on. just know that you dont have to pick just one path...you could do like me and try to be a clusterfuckjack-of-all-trades :)
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