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.Celltick.

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Flow of a diffrent drummer...
« on: May 13, 2009, 08:08:24 PM »

Sorry it's so late...I recorded it sunday and havn't been able to upload it....My song was chosen by Kai and it gave me fits...I'm not sure if this was the best way to represent it but I tried...:D


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Re: Flow of a diffrent drummer...
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 09:19:43 PM »

You've developed a clean handwave that looks great. The movement at around 2:15 was awesome, and I wish I'd thought of it. Around 3:25 and 5:00 things got really interesting for me also. Those are the up and coming type of movements in liquid right now. Well from my perspective at least. Overall your advancing at a great rate and show a ton of improvement and creativity.   
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Re: Flow of a diffrent drummer...
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2009, 12:40:30 AM »

kudos :)

i enjoyed it more as time went on and ur musicality warmed up to the track, for the first minute or so u seemed lost with the beat lol. especially at the beginning, you were staying small for the most part when i really thought u should've been doing larger movements(maybe some groundwork, botting, and full arm to body waves) with the drums so spaced apart. from a technical standpoint i do see improvement from ur  last clip your wrist and hands have gotten cleaner as birdage said already. and there were some interesting handflow points as well as the bigger thread u did towards the end.

by the end of several bars you seemed to be having too much time left before your next movement or not enough time and rushing to complete it. i definitely suggest you dedicate atleast a few sessions to timing and prediction of the beat. one thing i noticed is that alot of ur bigger moves were comming up a tad bit late which isnt an uncommon thing at all it still happens to me. what i do to correct this is say for example if i'm going todo a big horizontal split at the start of a bar, i will start that movement an 8th before it starts as the last one is ending because i know its going to take longer than a short stabby move. i actually do this for alot of my movements because they are wave-like and start at the shoulder, its a really wierd habit to get into, i've gotta make my own beat 1/8th before the real beat sometimes, but it works for me.
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Re: Flow of a diffrent drummer...
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 06:16:42 AM »

I agree with pretty much everything that was posted. Those timestamps that bird pointed out are gold. I say develop that style of flow as much as you can. I think those timestamps show that you're really reaching breakthrough territory, as opposed to previous videos where it looks like you were still getting a handle on the foundations of flow.

I think when you're doing 'standard' hand flow, it might look better to have the hands go further behind each other in splits and involve more of the arms. The other suggestion I have is levels and angles.

I think you're just one or two steps to consistent bugout territory, keep it up :D
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Re: Flow of a diffrent drummer...
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 05:06:49 PM »

Cool...thx 4 the tips guise....Those timestamps mentioned were some of my fav. points too....I've been thinking of mixing that type of stuff with my figure 8's, Birdages stackin' and this one move I've seen Tommy do where you cross ur arms and turn them like an allen wrench all week...I have no choice but to lab it.....
Musicality is always something I'm workin' at....gonna add some beat timing practice to that...


I def agree about the angles and levels too, Kai mentioned it before as far actually doing moves....I've been workin on flowin' and tickin' alot without actually movin a whole lot.....I think that comes from hearing alot of old schoolers say that you should drill technique and the moves will follow...i'm on it nao...


I don't know why Kai chose this song but I'm glad he did....It def. exposed alot of weaknesses of mine...the ones ya'll saw and others I noticed that are buggin' the shit outta me...so props on the choice man it def. helped me.


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Re: Flow of a diffrent drummer...
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 05:09:36 PM »



I think when you're doing 'standard' hand flow, it might look better to have the hands go further behind each other in splits and involve more of the arms.




I think I know what you mean but not 100% sure...wanna clarify a 'lil bro?...or point me too a clip with it...I'm interested ...


thx...:D
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 07:15:23 PM »

I think I know what you mean but not 100% sure...wanna clarify a 'lil bro?...or point me too a clip with it...I'm interested ...


thx...:D

I made this clip a while ago for some poster that posted and never came back:

http://floasis.net/smf/index.php?topic=1405.msg10733#msg10733

Something that might help you get it, although you don't by any means have to be limited to it: imagine yourself stretching the flow out with your lead hand so that it wraps behind your hand, down the outside of your forearm past your elbow, and around the inside of your bicep. If that is hard to visualize because it is in text, just try and get your splits to go past the elbow point.

If you still need help with this, I can make another clip, but you're not far off from actually doing it, so I figured this would suffice.
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Re: Flow of a diffrent drummer...
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 12:47:50 AM »

I got it now.......I thought thats what you meant.....I re-watched the LPC video tonight and saw Ben Grimm bust a bunch of 'em....I practiced on it a 'lil tonight and liked the outcome.....didn't feel natural but looked tight....gonna work on it some more....thx again..
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 10:36:46 AM »

:D
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009, 05:26:33 AM »

lol, Kai's a jerk, that song is not for liquiding it is for storming the beaches at Normandy.
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