Quote from: verb on July 21, 2010, 08:26:07 PM

the problem with hip-hop right now is the amazing producers having whack MCs.  Dont be ashamed, that beat  is sick.  this could be bring up a larger debate.  b/c the mcs in this video have good rhyme patterns and delivery but the lyrics have no substance as well as their vocab being small.  do you really say they are bad MCs just b/c they dont talk about what I want them to talk about? or use the words I want them to use?  they still deliver on beat in unique patterns and alot identify what he's talking about -I'll stop now-  I'd start a tread in music disc section, but I'm tired of talking about...I dont like where hiphop is but I love the beats..

i have the exact opposite opinion as you. amazing mc's, whack ass beats. there are exceptions(mostly within the indie sector, doomtree/defjux/etc) but imo most hiphop producers arent even in the same league as downtempo and triphop producers, not even gonna compare it to glitch hop/dubstep.

but yea agree on no substance thing, when its like that i dont even call it hiphop i call it rap, as in the descendant of gangster rap. i guess for me its like no matter how good a person can flow with this style(i'd say demigodz/aotp is my fav) it always gets boring and repetitive eventually. this isnt so much the case with more thoughtful hiphop. but even conscious/backpack hiphop gets too formulaic. its a sad state but theres enough diverse/unique cats out there to produce a few good albums a year, i'm mostly content with that.