Topic: spine tension (Read 1040 times)

SiFi · « **on:** July 29, 2011, 09:36:52 PM »

anybody else get really tight muscles around the spine from liquid?

i've done a little bit of liquid in the last week or so and the ol spinal hypertension is annoying. but at least i didnt strain anything.

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2011, 10:33:23 PM »

Quote from: SiFi on July 29, 2011, 09:36:52 PM

anybody else get really tight muscles around the spine from liquid?

i've done a little bit of liquid in the last week or so and the ol spinal hypertension is annoying. but at least i didnt strain anything.

as long as you take the do what you feel approach you will get injuries because what you feel is a subset of the movements you are comfortable with. These patterns of movement are usually not balanced and over represent certain types of movement and under represent others. If I had to guess you probably liquid with a hollow back more than an arched back.

Take a more systematic approach if you wish to correct these imbalances.

tommy VFIII · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2011, 11:00:06 PM »

me n pwt were talking about this subj last night actually, we both have shoddy backs(lower specifically) and some of the stuff we wanna start doing with liquid/dance is going to require us to fix that via strict stretching regimes, pwt has been on it for a lil bit(he told me drew/graph has seen some improvement after several months) and i'm gonna try to start soon.

alot of the stuff i'm moving towards targets the area already and i either have to power through it or i collapse heh....no control :[.

Quote from: shiftedShapes on July 29, 2011, 10:33:23 PM

as long as you take the do what you feel approach you will get injuries because what you feel is a subset of the movements you are comfortable with.

i think i get where your coming from with that comment but my experience has been the opposite, most of my injuries have come from me trying to fight natural feeling too much and twisting/jerking something i shouldnt have... i.e. a muscle or tendon i rarely use. generally speaking arent the muscle groups you are most comfortable with the strongest you have?

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2011, 08:37:34 PM »

Quote from: tommy VFIII on July 29, 2011, 11:00:06 PM

me n pwt were talking about this subj last night actually, we both have shoddy backs(lower specifically) and some of the stuff we wanna start doing with liquid/dance is going to require us to fix that via strict stretching regimes, pwt has been on it for a lil bit(he told me drew/graph has seen some improvement after several months) and i'm gonna try to start soon.

alot of the stuff i'm moving towards targets the area already and i either have to power through it or i collapse heh....no control :[.

Quote from: shiftedShapes on July 29, 2011, 10:33:23 PM
as long as you take the do what you feel approach you will get injuries because what you feel is a subset of the movements you are comfortable with.

i think i get where your coming from with that comment but my experience has been the opposite, most of my injuries have come from me trying to fight natural feeling too much and twisting/jerking something i shouldnt have... i.e. a muscle or tendon i rarely use. generally speaking arent the muscle groups you are most comfortable with the strongest you have?

you shouldn't be jerking with liquid, no way to maintain the illusion if you are not in full control.

the problem with always moving within your comfort zone is the muscles that do not get used are relatively weaker so you develop imbalances that set you up for acute and overuse injuries.

tommy VFIII · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2011, 10:24:33 PM »

Quote from: shiftedShapes on July 30, 2011, 08:37:34 PM

you shouldn't be jerking with liquid, no way to maintain the illusion if you are not in full control.

no shit :p...never said it was on purpose, its difficult to have full control ALL the time while dealing with new and unfamiliar movement

agreed on 2nd point

birdage · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2011, 01:53:47 AM »

Quote from: SiFi on July 29, 2011, 09:36:52 PM

anybody else get really tight muscles around the spine from liquid?

i've done a little bit of liquid in the last week or so and the ol spinal hypertension is annoying. but at least i didnt strain anything.

Do you workout your back at all?

Do some bent over rows, pull ups, or some deadlifts.

I never tense my muscles 100% personally. Also I use dynamic tension going from flexed to relaxed like a rubberband or a yoyo.

SiFi · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2011, 06:42:09 AM »

Quote from: birdage on July 31, 2011, 01:53:47 AM

Do you workout your back at all?

yep i do but only with dance, i find resistance training promotes tension. But then again, so does liquid haw haw.

Quote from: shiftedShapes on July 29, 2011, 10:33:23 PM

As long as you take the do what you feel approach you will get injuries because what you feel is a subset of the movements you are comfortable with. These patterns of movement are usually not balanced and over represent certain types of movement and under represent others. If I had to guess you probably liquid with a hollow back more than an arched back.

Take a more systematic approach if you wish to correct these imbalances.

Ur very technical with your use of words. But ur right, i used to be Captain Hollow Back and it was pretty bad for a while there. I would love to see an Arched Back clip that would be hilarious, im not sure how that would work?
Off to the chinese massage place tomorrow, those chinese folk sure know how to loosen shit up.

Quote from: shiftedShapes on July 30, 2011, 08:37:34 PM

you shouldn't be jerking with liquid, no way to maintain the illusion if you are not in full control.

On a side note, i couldn't agree with this statement any less. I guess it depends what you mean by "jerking", what you mean by "illusion" and what you mean by "full control". I guess I can't really tell you that your opinion is wrong because its your opinion. However.... this statement regarding control maintenance is SO wrong in so many ways.

Falsify · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2011, 08:50:22 AM »

Quote from: shiftedShapes on July 29, 2011, 10:33:23 PM

as long as you take the do what you feel approach you will get injuries because what you feel is a subset of the movements you are comfortable with. These patterns of movement are usually not balanced and over represent certain types of movement and under represent others. If I had to guess you probably liquid with a hollow back more than an arched back.

Take a more systematic approach if you wish to correct these imbalances.

I always dance with feeling and I have not sustained a major injury yet. Or even minor injury for that matter. Knock on wood.

Falsify · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2011, 08:51:26 AM »

Quote from: tommy VFIII on July 29, 2011, 11:00:06 PM

i think i get where your coming from with that comment but my experience has been the opposite, most of my injuries have come from me trying to fight natural feeling too much

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tiny · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:08:41 AM »

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